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Car Thing Firmware vs Carthios: Choose Your Connection Setup

The useful distinction is where the features run and what stays connected. Installing different software does not necessarily make Car Thing independent of a phone or computer.

By Zian Meng, creator of Carthios · Updated

Car Thing displaying music controls in front of a laptop running Spotify
Car Thing with Carthios in a Mac desk setup. The screen and physical controls work alongside the companion app.

I build Carthios. This guide explains its Mac-based architecture and links to other projects’ requirements; it does not claim one project is universally safer or more reliable.

With Carthios, the Mac remains part of the setup

Carthios connects the device’s display, dial, and buttons to a Mac dashboard. The companion app provides Spotify or Apple Music controls, weather, transit, Agenda, dictation, coding status, and system information. You need an Apple Silicon Mac running macOS 13 or newer.

Use a USB data cable for initial setup. The Mac app installs the matching dashboard and handles future updates. Optional Bluetooth Beta supports daily features after setup, but updates and microphone dictation still require USB data. See the connection reference for the current limits.

Other firmware still has connection requirements

Mira runs without a companion app but needs a phone or computer to provide internet. Nocturne documents several mobile and desktop connection paths. “Standalone” can mean no dedicated companion app or no phone tether, rather than no other device at all.

Check the Mira setup guide and Nocturne installation guide for the exact path you plan to use. Requirements were reviewed September 24, 2026.

Decide with three questions

  1. What will stay connected? For a Mac desk, Carthios can use the computer already beside you. For a phone-based setup, check the other projects’ supported phone and internet arrangements.
  2. What do you want on the screen? Carthios combines music with Mac-connected information and controls. Compare each alternative’s documented features against your actual routine.
  3. How will you update or recover it? Keep a working USB data cable and follow the chosen project’s recovery instructions. Read those before changing a device that already works.

Choose the product you can use today

Carthios’s public download is for Mac; Windows support is coming on the v3 roadmap, with no release date yet. The waitlist is open for Windows beta news. Flashing community firmware from Windows is a separate capability: the iFixit-based jailbreak walkthrough explains that process. For connection and cost differences, see Car Thing alternatives. For the current Mac release, follow the Carthios installation walkthrough.

Carthios now playing view
A Mac-first revival keeps the device close to your workspace.
Carthios transit dashboard
The difference is visible in the breadth of the dashboard.

Try the practical route

Give your Car Thing a second life with Carthios.

Use the screen and dial as a tactile desk dashboard. Carthios runs on Mac today, with Windows support coming on the v3 roadmap.

Explore Carthios Windows support is coming. Join the waitlist